Flagset 73017 Sayeret Matkal

AdamC · 2018-06-29 09:00:40 UTC

Head carvings

prime body 6
TAR21 rifle
cartridge A*1
kneecap
glasses
pistol
folding knife
mineral water
fluorescent rod *3
smog bomb
mountaineering buckles
grip
headlights
headphones + interphone
sight
laser
TAR21 rifle recognition chapter
warning light
night vision instrument
muffler
iron hand *1 pair
helmet
cartridge B*3
T - shirts
coat
pants
baseball cap
shoes
tactical vest
knapsack
floppy cap
Arabia towel
glove *1 pairs
helmet hood
Toolkits
sundries bag
thigh bag
cartridge A
cartridge B
cartridge C
smog bombs
interphone bag
small tool package A
small tool package B
leg *1 pairs
pistol sleeve thigh plate
pistol sleeve
thigh pouch
thigh plate knives
telescopic rope
belt
mineral water belt
telescope bandage
gun belt
rope ladder
maps
flag A*2
flag B*1
brand chapter A*1
brand chapter B*1
morale chapter A*1
blood type weaving Mark *2
morale chapter B*1
morale chapter C*1
morale chapter D*1
morale chapter E*1 (Limited Edition)
coat (Limited Edition)
pants (Limited Edition)

Suicide_Commando · 2018-06-29 09:26:34 UTC

Guess I was right about the subject matter. I actually really like this. Is Flagsets quality any good? I don’t have anything from them to go by. This just may be a first though.

chpo · 2018-06-29 10:07:29 UTC

Flagset is really shaping up for me. Lots of parts for a mannequin.

@AdamC Good thing I don’t need that grey suit You bringing this in? Thanks for the ref pics.

A change in sight would have been nice. Maybe an ITL MARS instead of M21.

SUN_GZU · 2018-06-29 13:04:04 UTC

Keanu Reeves an Israeli?

AdamC · 2018-06-29 22:55:45 UTC

Mid tier. They make for other brands as an OEM. If you had either of Caltek’s Costa or A-TACS figures, those are Flagset’s level of quality as they made them. They aren’t SS/DAM level of refinement or detail but the uniforms, vests, etc are usually decent enough. Body is one you would want to replace. Usually they have silly inaccuracies and parts carried over from random dead stock inventory they have but this one looks like they put more effort in on the accuracy.

AdamC · 2018-06-29 22:56:37 UTC

Depends of the price and if the distributor offers it.

Suicide_Commando · 2018-06-30 00:07:54 UTC

Hmm, well I guess I’ll have to take a wait and see approach. I definitely like what I see in the pics though. Guess we’ll have to see what the price point is.

Spetzcollector · 2018-06-30 01:13:05 UTC

Definite buy for me, i can’t get enough ROW military figures, and there’s a lot of cool unique gear on his guy. I really do wish they would produce a long barrel version of the Tavor or a micro C-TAR, however.

chpo · 2018-07-01 21:29:05 UTC

“At least” we are getting a different color

Looks like a remould from D&K to me and the pistol, too. Would have appreciated one of your mentions as well.

AdamC · 2018-07-01 21:52:02 UTC

Over at BBICN they mentioned it was their own new mold. I’m not familiar with the weapons this unit uses, but if they were doing a new mold it would have been nice to see a variant, if it made sense at least.

chpo · 2018-07-01 22:26:47 UTC

Let’s hope so, but the Israel flag rail cover made it suspicious. Also the knob to slide the magnifier on behind the flip up iron sight is still there.

Suicide_Commando · 2018-07-02 00:57:56 UTC

It’s probably the same mold. I don’t really mind though, I’m still liking this as it looks now. Hopefully the final product will be worth it.

Murakami · 2018-07-02 01:21:02 UTC

The parts list could’ve sub’d 57 thru 66 with:
57. Basic shitload of patches.

Suicide_Commando · 2018-07-02 05:14:26 UTC

lol, very true. Maybe Flagset just wanted to pad the list so it looks like there’s more important stuff than there actually is.

AdamC · 2018-07-03 08:42:37 UTC

Yep and apparently D&K is very suspicious as well. So too another brand if I had to guess.

chpo · 2018-07-03 10:47:08 UTC

Links won’t open. What did it show?

EDIT:

Just took ages to load.

http://bbs.bbicn.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=342077&extra=page%3D1

OK, I am a bit confused with google translator and the pics. Is it showcasing that Flagset copied other molds and just changed tiny bits to make it look different or is it plain copying?

http://bbs.bbicn.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=342073&extra=page%3D1

This one from D&K sounds like fraud.

Good to know though that the rail was detachable on purpose. Unfortunately, their won’t be GL in the future, I guess.

AdamC · 2018-07-03 18:06:48 UTC

It sounds like they are using other brand’s parts in their preview pictures then either stealing a mold they produced for another customer (like D&K) or substituting their own inferior version. They are an OEM that has produced for many brands including Soldier Story, Caltek, and seem to have a few of their own house brands. Some might remember words going around a few years back about Soldier Story’s projects being leaked to other brands and now we see Flagset copying Soldier Story products/themes in recent figures. It is pure speculation but that gives some idea.

D&K used Flagset (again this is the house brand of the Factory) to produce their product and it sounds like they believe Flagset has taken their mold and used it for themselves, at least for the preview photos. Typically the mold stays at the factory that produces the product so that it is on hand when the customer goes to use it again. Sometimes there are agreements for the factory to be able to use a mold after a certain period of time in order to get a reduced cost or to share the mold cost, but that doesn’t seem to be the case here. Most of the production cost in the molds.

AdamC · 2018-07-04 08:11:48 UTC

Looks like they have decided to pay D&K so the Tavor will be the same model. Regarding using other brands products to make their preorder figures look better they have basically said whoops sorry so you may want to wait till products are actually released to see if the final products are actually representative of what was shown. Pretty sketchy to say the least.

chpo · 2018-07-04 08:51:00 UTC

Sounds a bit ugly, but if it remains as it is, I am happy with this figure. At least new parts on the helmet and a Tavor in a different color.
I also like how they include new random stuff like tents and this ladder.

AdamC · 2018-07-04 18:35:03 UTC

The bigger deal for me is they seem to be using better quality versions of pieces from other brands in their preorder photos and then substituting their own lower quality parts. Makes it hard to trust that what is shown is actually representative of the final product. Hopefully they change their ways as they really have no excuse given they are one of the main OEM’s in the industry and it isn’t like they like production capabilities.